Sleepers

Sleeper doesn’t work

PA Wrestler (50 )

6/21/2022 7:04 PM

I’ve had this issue a bit, but on the receiving end. It’s not always, and some guys really know how to lock it in. But sometimes it just takes a little /too/ much to fully put me out; which typically leads to it hurting rather than being a quick thing.

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TxWrestle (48 )

6/20/2022 4:07 PM

Guys with thin necks or huge traps can be very hard to put out with a classic sleeper. He may also have unusually deep carotids, but I've never found a muscular neck to prevent a good choke hold from working. Make sure you are sliding the sterno-mastoid muscle out of the way when you are applying your techniques.
You need to get behind it to have access to the carotid, especially with a muscular guy. You could also try using a triangle choke with your legs (sankaku jime) so you can get better pressure.

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IKOYOU (4 )

6/19/2022 1:20 PM

Do you ever have an opponent who you can’t put unconscious no matter how hard you try? One who doesn’t pass out regardless of the hold you lock on him?

I have a buddy like that, and he really does want me to put him out cold. We’ve worked on half a dozen different holds together and nothing seems to work. Now I’ve put a number of guys out before with no trouble at all, so I know what I’m doing. This guy is well built and has a nice, muscular neck. Standing in front of him, just using my thumbs I can feel his carotids easily, but even then just pressing on them has no effect whatsoever.

What do you do when this situation arises? Is there a specific technique you use that I’m not aware of? I’m at a loss here, but would appreciate some help. He’s visiting again in a few days, and I’d love to surprise him this time around.

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BJJWrestlerLasVegas (12)

6/20/2022 3:47 AM

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Do u flex your biceps as you apply the hold? Doing this shuld make it highly effective, especially if u have good peaked biceps.

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IKOYOU (4 )

6/20/2022 3:52 AM

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Yes, I do. That has always worked on other guys, but not on this one.

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BJJWrestlerLasVegas (12)

7/06/2022 7:01 PM

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Triangles, arm and leg are very effective.

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FLASH1025 (12 )

7/06/2022 9:14 AM

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You can try a neck scissor or a triangle sleeper with your legs. That usually works.

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